Pelle Ehn is Professor Emeritus at Malmo University, Sweden and co-editor of a recent collection of essays Making Futures:  Marginal Notes on Innovation, Design, and Democracy (MIT Press). Pelle dropped in to the V&A to see me (GJ) and I was able to record this interview. However, my excitement at this and my ignorance with the technology I was using meant that the video image isn’t focused very well. But the words are good. Pelle talks about infrastructuring, the design and social sciences relationship and public space.

Pelle also gave a position statement on public space.